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Foxtrot Silver
Posted by Jennifer
11/8/2006  2:55:00 PM
Hello,

I am dancing this Christmas to a ballroom routine. I have two steps in the foxtrot that are at the silver level. I have never done it before and having difficulty catching on. Is there a video available that would show the silver steps for foxtrot?
Re: Foxtrot Silver
Posted by Quickstep
11/8/2006  3:43:00 PM
Jennifer. What is the name of each of the two steps you will be performing. There are some good Basics in the Learning Section on this web- site.
Re: Foxtrot Silver
Posted by Jennifer
11/9/2006  11:13:00 AM
Thankyou for your response.

The video clip I'm hoping to come across is the Fox Trot Silver step where you are are walking backwards with the Rise and Fall or shall I say walking backwards with the rise and fall into an open right turn (twinkle).

I hope this helps. Just looking for a clip that may demonstrate the technique.
Re: Foxtrot Silver
Posted by Waltz123
11/9/2006  12:07:00 PM
If it's a pattern consisting of all backward walks for lady, it's probably either a 3-Step or Feather Step (or both in succession). Ballroomdancers doesn't have silver level yet, but those patterns happen to be beginning bronze in Int'l style, so check Int'l Foxtrot if you want to see video clips of the Three Step and Feather Step.

It's not very typical in American style to dance a Feather into a Twinkle, however. You may be thinking of an Open Left Box, although it doesn't consist entirely of backward steps. This figure, unfortunately, does not have an Int'l style equivalent, so no video clips are available yet.

FYI, "Twinkle" and "Open Right Turn" are not synonyous. An Open Right Turn -- or more specifically, an Open Right Turn from PP -- can follow a Twinkle. But the Twinkle itself is not part of the Open Right Turn. (If you compare the basic Silver combo to the fundamental turn & change combo, the Twinkle is the Silver equivalent to the LF Change which leads into the Right Turn, if that makes sense). If you're an Arthur Murray student, you may have been confused by the fact that their school figure #1, "Open Right Turn", is actually an amalgamation consisting of a Twinkle, 1-3 of an Open Right Turn from PP, a Natural Spin Twinkle (aka Open Impetus), and a Feather ending from PP. This used to be called a "Triple Twinkle", but someone must have pointed out that it only contains two Twinkles, and so they updated the name in their syllabus. Unfortunately, their choice of replacement is more confusing than the original. This has nothing to do with where you might find a video clip, but I thought you'd find it interesting anyway.

Regards,
Jonathan
Re: Foxtrot Silver
Posted by Ellen
11/9/2006  2:24:00 PM
Is it International (standard) or American that you're dancing?

If American, are you talking about the step that goes (for the lady):

R foot back
L to side
L to side in promenade?

If so, it's a very common way to start patterns and i just saw it on the Marantos' American Silver Foxtrot DVD on dancevision.com.

In any case, you might want to try poking around on dancevision.com. They have generous sample clips of their DVDs you can watch and you might find what you are looking for.

Good luck! Enjoy the showcase!
Re: Foxtrot Silver
Posted by jerryblu
11/16/2006  10:24:00 AM
In American FT, Silver, there are two basic sets of steps.

1. The box step left turn. R back (and turn), L side, R fwd outside partner, L fwd (and turn), R side, L back outside partner.

2. The twinkle. R back no turn, L back and turn head to promenade (some teach a sort of diag back to the side thing, but it should be back IMO), R fwd in promenade; and then lots of different endings.

Does any of that sound familiar?

Jerry
Re: Foxtrot Silver
Posted by Waltz123
11/16/2006  1:37:00 PM
Jerryblu wrote:
In American FT, Silver, there are two basic sets of steps.
I think of more like 6 to 8, the main two being Open Left and Open Right Turns (not unlike the basic bronze syllabus, which starts with closed left and right turns).

The way I normally present the Foxtrot and Waltz syllabus for Int'l Standard, American Smooth Bronze, and American Smooth Silver is to start with the premise of the turn and change combo. Every one of those 6 dances starts with the basic formula of a Natural Turn, a Reverse Turn, and the "connector" steps (eg Changes). Almost everybody recognizes this formula in Bronze American and In't Waltz, because it's cut and dried: Left Box, Change, Right Box, Change (or vice-versa). And I think most people also recognize this formula in Int'l Foxtrot as well -- the Feather and Three Step being the change or "connector" actions. But fewer people realize that the same formula applies to American style Waltz & Foxtrot in Silver -- and can even apply to American style Bronze Foxtrot.

In Silver Waltz/Foxtrot, the first thing I show is an Open Reverse and an Open Natural (all closed position -- no promenade). Then I connect them with a Feather and a 3-step. (Depending on who I'm teaching, I might opt for a non-turning Hover Change in place of the Three Step, which is almost the same, except a bit safer and easier to pick up). This completes the turn & change formula.

Since the Twinkle in its various forum is a staple of American style, I then introduce the Forward & Back Twinkles, and incorporate them into the turn & change combination in their respective locations. The Forward Twinkle replaces the Three Step/Hover Change -- In other words, the Forward Twinkle becomes the "connector" between the Reverse and the Natural Turn -- and the Back Twinkle replaces the back half of the Natural Turn.

The introduction of the Twinkle also requires a slight variation in the approach into the Natural Turn, namely the fact that you commence from promenade position. As well, the Back Twinkle converts what was the Feather Step into a Feather ending, also being taken from promenade position.

So now we have Open Left Turns, Open Right Turns, Passing Changes in closed position (eg Feather and Three/Hover Change), Forward Twinkle and Back Twinkle, and the resulting variations they impose on the initial 4 figures. One might think of these as separate figures in and of themselves -- Twinkle to Open Natural, Back Twinkle to Feather Finish, but I tend to think of them as variations of the basic actions. At any rate, with just those basic actions, depending on how you count them, we're up to about 4 to 6 fundamental Silver patterns.

The other movement I consider very fundamental in Silver is the Passing or "Hover" Change, which is the Silver version of Forward Changes when taken outside partner in a zig-zag fashion. International dancers know this as a Hover Telemark (although they typically only dance it on one side, whereas in American we dance both). This comes in two varieties, forward and backward. That adds two more figures to my list, making a total of 6-8 basic figures. This is what I would consider Beginning Silver.

Intermediate Silver will add more variety of moving figures to aid in floorcraft as well as adding some open variations. Depending on who you talk to, common elements are Curved Feathers and Three Steps, any of various Chasses, Underarm turns, and some staple elements such as Grapevines and Open Side Lock. At this level, syncopated figures tend to be limited to Chasses -- That is to say, syncopated running figures (Running Weave, Tuble Turn, Syncopated Hairpins etc) are thought of as at least full Silver, if not Gold.

Full Silver is where we should see more variety. The most important elements are shadow figures, including the various transitions to and from the position, simple "line" figures such as Oversway and Same-Foot Lunge, Pivots (natural and reverse varieties), simple Standing Spins, and possibly some very simple syncopated running figures. By the time you get to this level, everybody has his own idea of exact figures or variations should be included, but suffice it to say that it should be absent of choreography, un-leadable actions such as those in open facing or side-by-side position, or highly complex actions (rhytmically or movement-wise). That's what Gold is for.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention Bronze Foxtrot. Here, too, you can apply the turn & change formula. Although I admit it's probably better to start teaching to a beginner the Forward Basic and Hesitation Left Turn, you can perhaps a little later on work towards the same turn & change formula that applies to all the other forms of Foxtrot & Waltz. In this case, I would use closed Left & Right Box Turns, with the "connectors" being a single Walk. This combination is a lot Foxtrottier than you might think, given that a LF walk followed by a Natural Turn is actually a Foxtrot Forward Basic. The Left Box is also a Basic Foxtrot action, so the only part of the turn & change combo that might feel unfamiliar to some is the back half of the Natural to the RF forward walk, but its nice once you get used to it. It adds more to your repertoire, giving you more options for floorcraft, emphasizes right turns (which are typically under-taught in Bronze Foxtrot), and most of all, shows that all swinging dances are rooted in the fundamental turn & change combo.

Regards,
Jonathan Atkinson
Re: Foxtrot Silver
Posted by Waltz123
11/16/2006  12:39:00 PM
R foot back
L to side
L to side in promenade
I think you probably meant right to side in PP on that last step, but we get the idea. What you're describing is the Silver version of a Twinkle.

We don't have the Silver version of a Twinkle on the website, but we will have the Bronze version very soon. Like most basic Silver figures, the Silver Twinkle is the same as its Bronze counterpart, except that you brush and then pass your feet on the 3rd step, rather than closing and changing weight.

Regards,
Jonathan
Re: Foxtrot Silver
Posted by jerryblu
11/16/2006  1:25:00 PM
Oops

Sorry. R to side in promenade.

(If my wife sees this, she'll probably tell me I double footed the step)

Jerry
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