International Waltz. Hi,I want to dance a rolling chasse to the left after the running weave,I know how to dance a tipple chasse to the left, what is the difference and where do I end up facing? Thanks

Do you mean the tumble turn? Its like a left turning chasse, with the exception that the lady will cross her Left foot behind the right, on the "&" count (if danced 1,2,&,3). You typically end Di Center against LOD. This can be quite a big turn, so remember that you are on the inside of the turn. Usually danced with a strong left side shape during the 2,&, as to close the lady's head if it were to open in the running weave. Hope this helps!

Thanks Sean, it is not a tumble turn. I have found it in a book.

Dave. If you can write a description of a Rolling Chasse it might help. To my way of thinking if it is a Chasse and will finish ready for a Reverse Movement I will be on the wrong foot unless it is used to preceeds a type of Syncopated Quick Open Reverse.
The most used here after the Running Weave is a Double Side Cross. With the count of 1 2 and 3 and. usually followed by a Reverse Fallaway Slip Pivot into a Throwaway Oversway.
This is demonstrated on one of the letter service tapes Ballroom Competition Figures 2 by Marcus Hilton.
We put a Double Reverse Spin after the Reverse Fallaway .

"International Waltz. Hi,I want to dance a rolling chasse to the left after the running weave"

Why?

Perhaps you should go ask whoever gave you the idea... or tell us where you read about it or otherwise became aware of the possibility - maybe there are other clues there as to what was meant.

Geoffrey Hearn's book "A Technique of Advanced Standard Ballroom Figures" gives a suggested advanced combination of Running Weave - Chasse Roll to Left - Left Hinge.

As man, the chasse roll commences RF back backing DC, and ends with a LF open toe pivot to end backing LOD, having turned a total of 7/8 to the left. Timing is 1&23.
It is nothing like a quickstep tipple chasse to the left.

"As man, the chasse roll commences RF back backing DC, and ends with a LF open toe pivot to end backing LOD, having turned a total of 7/8 to the left. Timing is 1&23.
It is nothing like a quickstep tipple chasse to the left."

It maybe be nothing like the quickstep figure, but this sounds very much like a waltz action often identified with the word tipple.

Basically, a tumble turn, with a chasse closure replacing the feather-like passing action of the original.

A tumble turn could be substituted, but some might find this tipple or chasse action more waltz-like, and the tumble more foxtrot-like. Just make sure both partners do the same version!!!

A good lead follow exercise is to pick one of {tipple, tumble, side lock} whithout saying which it will bit - it will bring out a mutual understanding of their differences.

"Basically, a tumble turn, with a chasse closure replacing the feather-like passing action of the original."

Correct!

"It maybe be nothing like the quickstep figure, but this sounds very much like a waltz action often identified with the word tipple."

I have also heard the term "ripple" used, and I know some who teach a tumble turn as a chasse to the right with a locking action for the lady, much more akin to a turning lock.

Unfortunately many of the figures that are not in the Alex Moore/Guy Howard books can appear in different areas with different, sometimes confusing, names. I suspect that is what motivated Geoffrey Hearn to consolidate the thoughts behind the letter service into his book.

We are no wiser now than at the beginning. I doubt if it was anything too complicated. Maybe it is going under different names. Could it be just simply Side Locks, or as Geoffrey Hearn calls them, a Double Side Cross.

Why do you think we are no wiser Quickstep?

The figure is a Chasse Roll to Left as described by Geoffrey Hearn. He describes it as 1-3 of a developed Progressive Chasse into an open Toe Pivot. He describes the tumble turn as a feather finish into an open Toe Pivot, which is why I agreed with the comparison made by Anonymous.

The man will follow with RF back down LOD. For a double side cross the man would follow LF fwd down LOD.