I believe we are aware that in lettering a d. is a p. turned upside down. And a b is q. And yet some people think that a step forward on the heel in the Waltz is different to a step forward on the heel in the Foxtrot. As the step is finished. One has commence to rise The other at the end of the step is rise. That is the end of the step. At the beginning of both steps we are already lowered from the end of the last step. In other words in both cases we are already down before we move. Knees compressed. Weight on the none moving foot which is the supporting foot ready to drive and commence to rise, or to rise at the end of the step. It must be why one only Forward Step is mentioned in the book, and not one for the Quickstep, and one for the Waltz, and one for the Foxtrot.

No argument there, IF (and that's a very very big IF) you want your Waltz to LOOK like a FOXTROT.

Otherwise, you best learn the nuances of the movement specific to EACH dance. And then you might realize how different the steps really are.

A step is just a step. It is the bit in between the steps, which is in between the beats, that is when dance. Anybody can step but not everybody can dance. If Alex Moore had wanted a step in the Waltz to be different to a step in the Foxtrot then wouldn

Confused. I hit the wrong key again. I was going to add that if Alex Moore had wanted the heel lead in the Waltz to be a different step to the Foxtrot then wouldn't it be reasonable to assume he would have somewhere in that book with all the different editions have said so. You tell me.

Can't see the forest for the trees? What's the difference between dark blue and light blue? Shade, hue, contrast. They are the same pigment, but different color.

IMO strictly/exactly defining how a FOXTROT should look is the height of artistic arrogance and conceit (think about it). IMO Alex Moore understood that, and he also understood that for the art to evolve, there has to be some freedom or leeway in the magnitude of movement to promote artistic EXPLORATION and expression.

So he created a framework, instead of a rulebook.


Sure, a heel lead may be the same to you between a Waltz and Foxtrot. And sure, you may interpret Alex Moore's codex in any way you want.

AGAIN, at the end of the day, No matter how you think that that movements are the same doesn't really matter, does it. Because HOW you execute the movement will dictate if the dance you're doing looks like a Waltz or a Foxtrot.

Now I'm confused,reading this post and the one before makes me wonder if Anonymous and quickstep is the same person.

Can some one please enlighten me?


Peter.

On the preceding post, it would seem that Anonymous and Quickstep are the same. Sounds like qs might have pressed the "Post Reply" key prematurely. Although, quickstep has been known to go by a number of nom-de-ballroom (hardly elusive because of quickstep's very distinctive writing style). Different from "Anonymous" that frequently replies to quickstep's notes.

Confused, I agree completely! Well-put and refreshing!

Which has nothing to do with . Is a heel lead in the Waltz any different to a heel lead in the Foxtrot. The moving leg in both cases comes to a point of balance underneath the body, which can also be called a neutral position, with flexed knees.The difference is at the end of the step. On one we commence to rise. on the other we rise at the end of the heel lead..If it had been intended that there being a difference it might have said. This is a Waltz, therefore we commence to rise at the beginning or half way through. Which if the step is carried out as it is written wouldn't be possible anyway.

Well then Quickstep, do as you believe! And more power to you.

IMO the more sophisticated your dancing becomes, the more you'll realize how different a heel lead in the Waltz is versus a Foxtrot, VWaltz, Quickstep, and Tango.


Want one clue? The angle of the foot at the ankle during a heel lead is clearly very different among the different dances. (Think about it--besides why would it be so wrong to be different? They're different dances!?)