Can someone tell me detail footsteps for "Hairpin" Please.

Is it "Heel Toe, Heel Toe, and Toe Heel?

How about "Curve feather" in Foxtrot? Are they the same?[ I don't unserstand why using Instant UBBcode]

It looks like something happened to your post and it got cut off. The Curved Feather is a syllabus figure, so I can just take the footwork for that out of the book -- man's part is HT, T, TH (RF, LF, RF OP); lady's is TH, T, TH. I can't be sure about the Hairpin because I've never learned it and the Popular Variations book I see it in isn't quite as detailed as the technique book. It appears that the footwork is the same, HT, T, TH for the man. What's the difference between them? I think the turn on the Hairpin is sharper/quicker and possibly more than the Curved Feather, but you're probably better off getting the answer from someone who knows the Hairpin better than I do.

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A hairpin is a sharper or over turned Curvedfeather. A hairpin is nornallly used if sycopation is used as in pivot to hairpin. Here is an example for man in closed position facing line of dance with right foot free. Begin with one right turn, (now to begin pivot to hairpin) - step back with left foot and pivot one half, and do a sharp curved feather to outside lady and facing at least RLOD. After the pivot the next step with the man's right foot is between the lady's feet and, of coure you end on the balls of both feet lowering into the next step - could be back feather. The toe- heel is as with curved feather and the first step is normal pivot. The timing can be varied to suit individual choice. Common is 12&3, but one can use 123&, or 1&23.

It seems that I got the answers from my instructors, Keh Gough, Socialdancer, and Dronak all combined.

Curve Feather in Foxtrot is HT, T, and TH.
Hairpin in Waltz is H(not HT), HT, and TH. I always find it difficult to do Heel on the second step. Thanks.

The hairpin I know is basically a three step curved sharply to the left, half a turn. The footwork is the same as the three step. Using the Guy Howard/IDTA version that starts with the man's LF, that is heel, heel-toe, toe-heel.

Note the first step is not heel-toe as that would imply a rise and require the next step to be toe or toe-heel. That's not to say that the LF doesn't roll through from heel to toe as the next step is taken just as it would if walking normally, but there is no deliberate movement onto the toe.

I can't see a foxtrot hairpin in "popular variations" (oh for an alphabetical index!) but it does show natural hairpins in quickstep which would be tightly curved feathers.

Rgds
Howard

First let me note that I was taking the footwork out of the ISTD technique book for the Curved Feather and I tried to follow Alex Moore's _Popular Variatons_ on the Hairpin. The variations listed there, Keh, are:

* Natural Hairpin. Running Finish to Lock
* Natural Turn. Back Lock, Runing Finish into Hairpin, Running Finish to Hairpin. Check to V.6
* Natural Hairpin to "In and Out" Runs
* Natural Hairpin. Hop Turns to Side Flicks. Quick Chasse

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Howard wrote:

So what is a useful application of Hairpin? Like what steps do you dance leading into Hairpin and after? Thanks.

Somehow I missed the word waltz in the subject of the original question and went off talking about foxtrot. Still I think everything still applies.

Keh asked about uses. I originally learnt the hairpin, like most figures, as part of a routine, but I find it useful when I need to take avoiding action. As such I don't have a particular preceding figure but if my LF is free with nowhere to go I might dance a hairpin. Follows could be 4-6 of reverse turn (feather finish in foxtrot)or possibly a reverse corte. If my RF is free I might dance the curved feather and maybe a hesitation change finish or open/closed impetus.

Howard

I learnt a Hairpin Feather after a Curving Three Step. Which means the man steps back on the right foot
TH then T TH Followed by a Chasse and a Travelling Contra Check

I learned that a hairpin is a syncopated feather, which is why it is often preceded by a pivot.