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Novice and Syllabus
Posted by Starting
9/2/2004  9:21:00 AM
Hi,

We are new international ballroom dance amateurcompetitors and find the proficiency categories so confusing. We are doing silver right now. We see there are syllabus and novice catergory. We originally thought there were only two big categories for amateur dancers---closed, which is basically syllabus level (bronz, silver, and gold) and open, which is prechamp and champion level. What is Novice? If we are doing so called silver, are we syllabus dancers or novice dancers? (We do all dances except PD and VW.) As a side note, we find we are darn good for silver dancers so we want to move up to the next level soon. Let's say we finish pretty good in gold level competition. Which are we supposed to do next, novice or prechampionship?

We hope our questions are not too confusing. We would appreciate any kind of reponse.
Thank you.
Re: Novice and Syllabus
Posted by Laura
9/2/2004  10:02:00 AM
The USABDA rule book (see http://usabda.org/dancesport_competitors/rules-policies-bylaws/dancesport_rulebook/index.cfm) talks about this in section 4.5.3, and even gives a small diagram -- although admittedly even with this it's still confusing.

To make a long story short, syllabus and Novice sit alongside each other. So, if you're doing syllabus, you can also do Novice, and if you're doing closed syllabus work on the Novice level, you can also do syllabus. Furthermore, rule 4.5.4.6 b) states "If one or both of the proficiency levels is a Syllabus level, then a couple may also enter the Novice level."

If you are doing Silver, you are a syllabus dancer who is also eligible for Novice. The next level up for Silver dancers who are doing syllabus would normally be Gold. At any time that you are dancing Syllabus, you can also enter Novice if a Novice category is offered.

All this confusion stems from how dance competitions were commonly run 10 or more years ago in the US. On the West Coast there were no syllabus divisions, the lowest competitive level was called Novice. On the East Coast there were syllabus competitions, so people would work their way up through the syllabus levels and then go in to Pre-Champ. Rather than picking one system over the other, USABDA attempted to merge the two, thus resulting in ongoing confusion to all newcomers

In practice, Novice is really becoming the level between Gold and Pre Championship. Personally, since so many people think of it that way, I think the rules should be cleaned up and simplified so that rather than Novice being alongside that it gets put "in line" where people expect it to be, but that's just my opinion.

If you have any other questions please ask, I'm quite familiar with the rule book and what the rules mean because I've been working as a competition Registrar for some USABDA competitions for the past couple of years.

Re: Novice and Syllabus
Posted by Anonymous
9/3/2004  4:06:00 PM
Laura,
That was a great explanation..

Also an amatuer competitior, I too have had this confusion. It is not so much present at USABDA functions anymore but does still occur at independent competitions.

Organizers are sometimes using the term novice as the Bronze ,silver,and gold. And then sometimes novice,like you said. is the level after gold prior to pre champ.

It does get confusing to the amatuar tring to register. A few times I ended up in a much higher category than I had planned.

Now, when registering, and there is confusion I either call or EMail the organizer. I find that they are always willing to take the time and are happy to expalin the categories to me.
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