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Ballroom Etiquette
Posted by David
10/19/2004  8:47:00 PM
Hi,please allow me to explain a situation. A friend of mine does not dance, and was at a function. Well into the evening, a dance instructor, who had to have noticed that he did not dance, asked his wife to dance, without first approaching my friend to ask him for his blessing.

My friend is outraged. Should he be? Where can we find rules for such situations, in ballroom dancing, clearly written and enunciated?

Thanks.

David Jaremy
Hornepayne,Ontario
Etiquette
Posted by David
10/19/2004  8:48:00 PM
Pursuant to my previous message, feel free to email me at david_jaremy@yahoo.comThanks again.David
Re: Ballroom Etiquette
Posted by partaij1
10/19/2004  11:21:00 PM
I think it would have been better if the dance instructor had asked the husband first, particularly since it was not a dance studio environment.But your friend might want to consider that dance instructors routinely ask women to dance all the time (it's their job), and their familiarity with doing so might explain how they might not be sufficiently sensitive to spouses who are present in situations like the one you describe.
Re: Ballroom Etiquette
Posted by tango2x2
10/20/2004  1:56:00 AM
http://www.utdallas.edu/~aria/dance/etiquette.html


http://www.utdallas.edu/~aria/dance/beyond.html
Re: Ballroom Etiquette
Posted by anonymous
10/20/2004  7:12:00 AM
Hey, it's 2004. The woman didn't need 'blessing' to dance, any more than she needs 'blessing' to pay for the check in a restaurant or 'blessing' to speak to someone.

Not being someone who dances, or someone who apparently does not have much experience in the new millenium at all, your friend should notice that women actually have the ability to accept or reject any advances, dancewise or otherwise.
Re: Ballroom Etiquette
Posted by Laura
10/20/2004  11:50:00 AM
I agree. I think David's friend is wayyy out of line and out of step with the times if he thinks someone at a social party with dancing has to ask his permission to dance with his wife. Isn't a wife a person too? She can make her own decisions, she's not personal property. And, most of all, it was a social function with dancing -- of course people are going to go around asking others to dance with them. That's the whole point.

If David's friend is so insecure in his relationship that people need permission to socialize with his wife, then he and his wife need to agree beforehand that any time the wife is asked she'll say "I'm sorry, you have to ask my husband" AND that the husband will realize that the rest of the dance scene no longer views wives as property so the husband shouldn't get bent out of shape when dancers approach the wife first.
Re: Ballroom Etiquette
Posted by another anon
10/20/2004  8:04:00 PM
David,

If your friend danced, he would not have taken any offense at what happened, or even given it a second thought. People from outside the dance world think dancing is all about romancing someone, or learning how to be more romantic. (Movies like Dirty Dancing and Shall We Dance? don't help.) There is that aspect, but the majority of the time, it's just a social thing.
Re: Ballroom Etiquette
Posted by tango2x2
10/20/2004  11:44:00 PM
I have never approached a lady who is accompanied/escorted by a man unless I know both of them real well.
Re: Ballroom Etiquette
Posted by Dronak
10/21/2004  4:08:00 PM
No, he shouldn't be outraged. The person wanted to dance with his wife, so he asked her. Since she's the one who would be dancing, it's up to her to decide if she wants to or not, not her husband's choice. If she wants to, she can ask her husband, "do you mind if I dance with him?" or something. But nowadays, I think the idea of having to ask the man to dance with his lady is very outdated and rarely done. And consider this -- how would his wife feel if every man asked her husband, "may I dance with your wife"? Won't that make her feel like a piece of property, that she's unable to make her own decisions? I think that has the potential to be a lot more offensive. Unless he considers his wife as a piece of property, no, he should not be upset at all. This is normal practice. All he has to do is observe what's going on around him to see this happens all the time.

And the two links posted by tango2x2 are certainly a good start. They're not fresh in my mind, but I have read them before and as I recall, they do a very good job at describing dance etiquette.
Re: Ballroom Etiquette
Posted by tango2x2
10/21/2004  11:09:00 PM
Hi Dr. Dronak,

First, let me congratulate you on your hard earned Ph.D. degree.

Actually the two dancing etiquette links were found through your dancing webpage. :) I know many ballroom information can be found there when I need them. For that I thank you very much.

Your explanation above is great but sometimes there is a condition of extreme case of jealousy at play.

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